The Indian Scout lineup has been redesigned for model year 2025, ushering in a new generation of Indian Motorcycle’s best-selling platform. The lineup includes five distinct models, all featuring the new SpeedPlus 1250 V-Twin, a new tubular-steel frame, and other changes.
We got the chance to test all five models and came away impressed. Take a ride with us in the video below as we review the trimmed-down Scout Bobber, the traditional Scout Classic, the light-touring Super Scout, the spirited Sport Scout, and the top-of-the-line 101 Scout. Read our full review here.
The Scout is incredibly important to Indian Motorcycle. It’s the brand’s top‑selling platform, with more than 110,000 sold since its 2015 debut. It comprises more than 40% of Indian’s total sales volume and more than 50% of its international sales. And, crucially, it’s the entry point for Indian, with 93% of Scout customers being new to the brand.
So when Indian decided to give the Scout a full make‑over treatment, it wanted to avoid screwing up a successful formula. No surprise, then, that evolution of the Scout was a better approach than revolution.
“We needed to make sure we didn’t mess it up,” explained Ben Lindaman, product director for the Scout platform. “People love it, so that’s what made the development process challenging.”
That said, the Scout’s new frame goes far beyond evolution. The former cast‑aluminum frame was cast aside for a tubular‑steel design, similar to what was done to the Chief platform in 2021. Chassis geometry remains similar, with a 29‑degree rake, 4.8 inches of trail, and wheels spread 61.5 inches apart.
The Scout’s new frame, while seemingly backward in technology, provides a much cleaner chassis design than the bulkier aluminum structure that looked blocky and awkward in the area behind the front wheel. Surprisingly, Indian says the weight of the steel frame is similar to the former aluminum one.
Ola Stenegard, Indian’s director of industrial design, explained the guiding principles of the Scout redesign: timeless; keep it simple and clean; customizing is key.
Stenegard noted how the “S” line from the steering neck to the frame’s downtubes was patterned after the original Scout, which debuted in 1920, as well as even earlier Indians. And by using a steel frame, the modification process for custom builders was simplified: “Customizing is the cornerstone of what we’re doing,” he said.
Some of the best design work is invisible. The subframe area below the seat remains aluminum, but it’s a new casting that now encloses most of the Scout’s electronics and supports the modular electrical system. This enables shorter wiring and prevents components from being scattered around the motorcycle, resulting in a cleaner overall appearance.
The subframe casting also ties together the chassis behind the engine for optimum rigidity, and it’s now common among all Scout models. So instead of model‑specific seat pans and bracketry, all Scout seats and fenders can be used across the platform, simplifying things for customers, dealers, and the aftermarket.
Less revolutionary is the Scout’s rolling stock, with wheels, brakes, and suspension largely carried over from previous Scouts. Indian says the Scout’s 25.6‑inch seat height is the lowest in its class. Tank‑empty weights range from 522 lb (Bobber) to 571 lb (Super Scout).
All five models are equipped with antilock brakes, full LED lighting, and self‑canceling turnsignals. Versions with analog gauges now include fuel level and fuel economy readouts.
To further expand customer choice, the Scout is available with different trim levels. The Limited package adds cruise control, traction control, selectable ride modes (Sport, Standard, and Tour), and a USB charging port for an extra $700.
More features are included in the $1,700 Limited +Tech trim level, which adds keyless ignition and Indian’s 4‑inch round touchscreen TFT instrumentation. Thus equipped, riders can access navigation and additional ride info, plus it can be configured to view alternate layouts. It’s standard on the Super Scout and 101 Scout.
Indian Scout SpeedPlus 1250: Engine & Tonic
The Scout’s liquid‑cooled 60‑degree V‑Twin received a comprehensive overhaul. At first glance, the SpeedPlus 1250 appears to be just a simple overbore, punching out the cylinders from 99mm to 104mm and retaining its 73.6mm stroke to displace 1,250cc (76.3ci), up from the previous 1,133cc.
However, there are myriad internal changes for the SpeedPlus – Indian says it’s at least 70% new. A fresh cylinder‑head design ups the compression ratio and contains bigger valves operated by new camshaft profiles. At the bottom end, the crankshaft is 5.8 lb lighter, contributing to the motor’s significant 10‑lb weight loss. Importantly for servicing access, the valve covers can now be removed without splitting the frame, and checking oil levels is made simpler with a new sight‑glass window.
The old 2‑into‑2 exhaust system has been ditched in favor of a single large muffler. It looks bulkier, but it’s designed to be much easier to replace with aftermarket systems. The bike’s catalytic converters are contained in the junction prior to the muffler, so a simple swap to a slip‑on exhaust retains clean emissions even if noise might exceed regulations.
Horsepower has been boosted from 100 to 105 hp. More important to regular riding duties is the engine’s 14% torque bump, jumping from 72 to 82 lb‑ft. Torque reaches its peak at 6,300 rpm, while peak ponies arrive at 7,250 revs, long before the 8,500‑rpm rev limiter kicks in. The 101 Scout has special electronic tuning that nudges its peak output to 111 hp, a tune that other Scouts can get via a dealer reflash for $219.99.
Transmission duties are handled by a new slip/assist clutch that reduces lever effort and prevents rear‑wheel hopping during sloppy downshifts. The engine’s drive sprocket has its tooth count reduced by one, yielding slightly shorter overall gearing for punchier acceleration.
Indian Scout Test Rides
Now it’s time for the fun part of motorcycle journalism – riding the new bikes! We set off on the Bobber, Classic, and Super Scouts for a trip through San Francisco and then south to oceanside Santa Cruz for an overnighter.
The next day, we took a return journey along twisty roads on the Sport Scout before a stop at the famous motorcycle hangout Alice’s Restaurant. After a quick lunch, we mounted up on the headliner of the platform, the 101 Scout, and tore up some more twisty roads before jumping on the freeway for our return to San Fran.
Indian Scout Bobber: The Rebel
The Bobber looks imposing with its fat front tire, low handlebar, and blacked‑out trim, so it’s easy to see why it has been the Scout’s best‑selling model. Its appearance is augmented by short‑cropped fenders for an aggressive look, and its headlight is capped with a minimalistic nacelle.
Our test bike was equipped with the Limited +Tech package, so no key was needed to fire it up. The 60‑degree V‑Twin sounds deep and authoritative, but it lacks the loping cadence of narrower vee angle motors like Indian’s Chief and most Harleys.
The new slip/assist clutch in the Scouts is an impressive upgrade. Pulling in the lever is an action repeated hundreds of times during a ride, and the Scout’s requires only minimal effort. Additionally, its slipper function kept the rear wheel turning even when dumped at obscenely aggressive revs during downshifts.
Once underway, the Bobber feels similar to the previous version, as its weight and geometry have barely changed, and its suspension, brakes, and tires haven’t at all. While I appreciate the butch look of the chunky Pirelli MT60RS tires, the tall sidewall of the 130/90‑16 front tire attenuates front‑end feedback.
The underslung bar‑end mirrors were out of eyeshot without looking downward, and they’re in danger of scuffing the fuel tank at full lock. Happily, they can be easily switched to locations above the handlebar by swapping sides. Either way, you’ll be looking at empty perches above the bars where mirrors are mounted on the Classic and Super Scouts.
Riding through town didn’t allow for delving deep into the powerband, but the SpeedPlus impressed with its beefier reactions to small throttle inputs. The Scout now has the mid‑rpm juice to feel like it has even more than 76ci at its disposal.
The fuel‑injection tuning was mostly good, but some of our pre‑production bikes occasionally stalled while mired in traffic. Indian promises a more finely tuned EFI map in its production models. Otherwise, throttle response was excellent.
The Bobber is a fun ride, but it comes up short – literally – in terms of rear‑suspension compliance. To achieve its low‑slung look, it is fitted with shocks that deliver just 2 inches of travel; every other Scout model has 3 inches of stroke. It’s true what some say: Even 1 inch can make a big difference in performance.
Indian Scout Classic: The Traditional One
If you’re a rider who hasn’t yet warmed to dull colors and matte‑black trim, turn your head toward the Scout Classic. Instead of the Bobber’s tough‑looking colorways, the Classic responds with brighter paintwork and plenty of chrome accents. Full fenders – rather than bobbed ones – are gracefully old‑school. Prices start at $13,999.
Both bikes use 16‑inch front and rear wheels, but the Scout Classic substitutes 40‑spoke wire wheels for the Bobber’s cast‑aluminum hoops. And rather than the dirt‑track‑inspired Dunlops on the Bobber, the Classic is fitted with Pirelli Night Dragon tires that proved to be more responsive and easier to steer.
I found the riding position of the Classic preferable over the more compact arrangement on the Bobber. Its bars are placed higher, which makes the bike slightly easier to steer and maneuver in tighter spaces at low speeds.
The Scout Classic (and every other Scout) proved that 3 inches of travel is considerably better than the 2 inches on the Bobber. Meanwhile, the SpeedPlus drivetrain continued to impress, and for some reason, the engine never died on me like the Bobber’s.
Indian Super Scout: The Versatile One
The Super Scout takes its inspiration from the Super Chief, as they’re both equipped with a windshield, saddlebags, and a passenger seat to make them suitable for two‑up travel. And on a warm day the windshield quickly detaches for wind‑in‑the‑face riding.
Like the Scout Classic, it has chrome finishes, longer fenders, a higher handlebar, and wire‑spoke wheels. And that appreciable extra inch. All that adds up to the heaviest Scout model, scaling in at 571 lb. Prices start at $16,499.
The handlebar placement felt neutral to my hands, and the seat felt good to my…seat. Chrome mirrors on perches aren’t my style, but they kept my rearward view unobstructed. The Super Scout’s windshield produced more noise than the accessory shield fitted to the Scout Classic I rode.
Like the Bobber, the Super rolls on the same chunky Pirelli MT60RS rubber, and again I didn’t warm to their duller responses as compared to the Night Dragons. Also feedback from the brakes was dull, the front in particular. While braided‑steel lines provide a firm lever, the Scout’s brakes are average at best.
Indian Sport Scout: Going Rogue
Remember the Scout Rogue introduced in 2022 (see our June issue), which was equipped with a quarter fairing, drop‑down mirrors, and a 19‑inch cast‑aluminum front wheel? Well, that formula can be found in the new Sport Scout, which reprises an Indian model name from the 1930s.
This new model also receives different ergonomics. Machined triple‑clamps fitted with 6‑inch risers and a moto‑style handlebar put riders in an aggressive posture. A sport‑style seat has a taller rear section to keep riders aboard when accessing the strong power available from the SpeedPlus.
On the road, the engine and transmission feel well‑suited to the Sport Scout. Although down on ponies compared to the 121 hp of Harley‑Davidson’s RevMax in the Sportster S, the Indian motor generates more vibration and exhibits a character more in line with a cruiser.
The Sport Scout’s best asset is the neutral steering feel provided by the 130/60‑19 Metzeler Cruisetech front tire. Going to a shorter‑profile tire enhances the feedback felt at the bars, and this arrangement was preferable over the chunky 16‑incher on some other Scouts.
With prices starting at $13,499, the Sport Scout has the potential to topple the Bobber from the top of the sales charts – it would be my target if walking into an Indian dealership. Sure, its quarter fairing provides more style than wind protection, and I’d have to dig out extra dollars for the extra tech features I’d want to have, but it has the best capabilities‑per‑dollar ratio of any American motorcycle.
Indian 101 Scout: A Legend Reborn
The 101 Scout is perhaps the most revered Indian motorcycle ever made, so reviving the historic nameplate wasn’t taken lightly. With a special tune claimed to deliver 111 hp, the result is the highest‑performing Scout to date.
In a nutshell, the 101 Scout is a Sport Scout with the front end of an Indian FTR bolted on. That not only brings the security of an inverted fork with a full range of adjustability, but also a front‑brake setup that shames the capabilities of the other Scouts. Instead of a single disc with a 2‑piston caliper, the 101 has dual 320mm discs bitten by a pair of 4‑piston Brembo radial‑mount calipers. The increase in power and feedback is astonishing.
Like the Sport Scout, it has black 6‑inch risers with machined highlights and a moto‑style handlebar, providing purposefully aggressive ergonomics. Unlike other Scouts, the 101 has piggyback shocks that are adjustable for preload and rebound/compression damping. It also sets itself apart with a custom‑stitched gunfighter‑style solo seat and exclusive 101 Scout badging, paint, and graphics.
I wish I could tell you that the 101’s engine tuning felt much more powerful compared to its lesser siblings, but the difference is felt only at the top of the rev range, a zone rarely accessed on public roads. I couldn’t tell the difference when riding at casual revs.
There is a more notable improvement with the 101’s suspension, especially at the rear end. The fully adjustable shocks provided extra control, and bump absorption got even better after I dialed up their rebound damping via the hand‑adjustable clickers.
The only negative to the 101 Scout is that the extra brake caliper and rotor adds weight to the front wheel, causing the bike to steer slower than its brethren and feel slightly less agile. I believe a single‑rotor Brembo setup would provide significantly improved braking performance relative to the other Scouts, but Indian contends that customers for a bike like this demand dual discs.
Indian’s goal with the 101 Scout was to reset the bar for American V‑Twin cruisers, and it succeeded. It offers more performance than any production Scout, and it does so with unrivaled capability and style.
Talent Scout
If you’re gonna proudly yell “Made in America” when buying a mid‑size cruiser, your choices are limited. Indian makes a solid case for itself with these new Scouts, and it intends to become the market‑share leader in the segment. After riding the new Scouts, that seems likely.
Harley‑Davidson’s 975cc Nightster has a starting price of $13,499, $500 more than the Scout Bobber. But with 91 hp and 72 lb‑ft of torque, it’s significantly down on power. The MoCo’s Sportster S has 10 extra horses over the 101 Scout and is priced identically, but its 2 inches of rear suspension travel comes up short – there’s that extra inch again.
The new Scouts improve on the previous admirable Scouts in every important aspect: performance, style, execution, and desirability. Lindaman, the Scout’s product director, said this redesign should extend the Scout platform for another 10‑year run.
Somewhere along the line I’d like to see a cheaper version of the 101 Scout with a single‑disc Brembo brake setup and a pair of shocks with 4 inches of travel, which I was told would fit without further modifications. Until then, I’d be thrilled with a (very) long‑term 101 Scout loaner.
In its first major revamp since its 2015 debut, Indian’s Scout cruiser platform is all-new from the ground up, and the 2025 lineup includes five models, including some with names that will be familiar to any fan of Indian history: Scout Bobber, Sport Scout, Scout Classic, Super Scout, and 101 Scout. Three trim levels will be available, as well as more than 100 dedicated accessories.
At the heart of the Scout platform is a new engine called the SpeedPlus 1250. The V-Twin remains liquid-cooled but has been completely redesigned, punched out from 1,133cc to 1,250cc. Its bore goes up from 99m to 104mm, while its stroke remains at 73.6mm. Power goes up to 105 ponies and 82 lb-ft of torque, and the 101 Scout gets a bump to 111 hp.
Also new is the Scout’s frame, switching from an aluminum design to a simpler steel-tube chassis intended to be easier to customize, similar to what Indian did with the Chief platform in 2021. It supplies a 61.5-inch wheelbase with a 29-degree rake and 4.8 inches of trail.
“Our top priority was to uphold the iconic namesake of Scout and ensure the new lineup is as timeless as all its predecessors,” said Ola Stenegard, director of product design for Indian Motorcycle. “For us, it was imperative to keep it clean, follow the iconic lines of Scout, and create a package that offered seamless customization. To achieve this, it all started with the steel-tube frame and all-new V-Twin engine.”
Indian says the Scout’s 25.6-inch seat height is the lowest in class. There are also new features and technology offered on certain Scout models and trim packages. All models except for the 101 Scout use a single 298mm front disc brake with a 2-piston caliper, and ABS is standard.
“As our top-selling platform, Scout has long been a staple in our lineup,” said Mike Dougherty, president of Indian Motorcycle. “We’re excited to take it to the next level and continue its evolution with a robust offering of models to meet the diverse needs of our global riding community.”
2025 Indian Scout Models
The least expensive version is the Scout Bobber, withprices starting at $12,999. It’s a low, stripped-down model with chopped fenders, blacked-out styling, bar-end mirrors, and slammed 2-inch rear suspension.
The Scout Classic (starting at $13,999) lives up to its name with a traditional design that includes flared fenders, wire-spoke wheels, relaxed ergonomics, and flashes of chrome. Their “as shipped” weights are 522 lb and 536 lb, respectively. We’ll have to wait to find out what their curb weights are when their diminutive 3.4-gallon fuel tanks are full.
Reprising a model name from the 1930s, the Sport Scout (starting at $13,499) has a similar aggressive style as the former Scout Rogue, with a quarter fairing, 6-inch moto-style bar risers with machined highlights and a moto-style handlebar, machined triple clamps, along with a sport-style seat and a 19-inch front wheel. It weighs 528 lb as shipped.
The Super Scout mirrors the theme of the Super Chief, equipped for the open road with a quick-release windshield, saddlebags, a passenger seat, and 3 inches of rear suspension travel. Like the Scout Classic, it has chrome finishes and wire-spoke wheels. It’s the heaviest Scout at 571 lb, and prices start at $16,499.
Resurrecting another legendary model name from Indian’s past, the 101 Scout packs more performance than any production Scout ever made. Its fully adjustable suspension consists of an inverted fork and piggyback rear shocks. Brakes are also high-end items, with a pair of 4-piston radial-mount Brembo front calipers pinching 320mm rotors. Like the Sport Scout, it has black moto-style risers and a moto-style handlebar, but the 101 Scout sets itself apart with a custom-stitched gunfighter-style solo seat and exclusive 101 Scout badging, paint, and graphics. Prices start at $16,999.
2025 Indian Scout Trim Packages and Accessory Collections
Three trim levels are available for certain models, starting with the Standard trim package, which includes ABS, new LED lighting, and an analog gauge with new fuel level and fuel economy readouts for the Scout Bobber, Scout Classic, and Sport Scout. Upgrading to the Limited trim level ($700) on those models adds selectable ride modes (Sport, Standard, and Tour), traction control, cruise control, and a USB charging port.
The top-of-the-line Limited +Tech trim includes the Limited features and adds keyless ignition and Indian’s 4-inch round touchscreen display with Ride Command that offers turn-by-turn navigation, point-to-point route planning, weather and traffic overlay, configurable gauges, ride stats, and optional Ride Command+ connected services. The Limited +Tech trim level adds $1,700 to the base pricing for the Scout Bobber, Scout Classic, and Sport Scout, and it’s standard on the Super Scout and 101 Scout.
Along with the five models and three trim levels, Indian will offer more than 100 accessories to enhance versatility, style, and comfort (including 32 ergonomic combinations). There are also four new accessory collections.
The Overnighter Collection is for travelers, and it includes the Solo Luggage Rack, All-Weather Vinyl Tail Bag, 20-inch Quick Release Touring Windshield, and Touring Saddlebags.
The Commuter Collection includes the Syndicate Seat, Pathfinder 5.75-inch Adaptive LED Headlight, Pinnacle Mirrors, RAM X-Grip Phone Mount, Mid Foot Controls, and Passenger Pegs.
The Stealth Collection adds aggressive style and functionality with Sleek Smoked Turn Signals, Moto Handlebar with 10-inch risers, Radial RS Mirrors by Rizoma, Bobber Saddlebags, Blacked-Out Levers, and the Pathfinder LED Headlight.
The Open Roads Collection includes Steel Front Highway Bars, LED Driving Lights, Syndicate Low Profile Passenger Backrest, Touring Backrest Pad, Rider and Passenger Floorboards, and Highway Pegs.
The Sportster is one of most iconic and successful Harley-Davidson motorcycles, and it’s one of the longest-running motorcycle models in history. Introduced in 1957 – the same year Wham-O introduced the Frisbee and Elvis Presley’s “All Shook Up” topped the Billboard charts – the Sportster was a response to the light, fast OHV British bikes that took the American motorcycle market by storm after WWII.
An evolution of the side-valve KHK, the XL (the Sportster’s official model designation) was powered by an air-cooled, 883cc, 45-degree “ironhead” V-Twin with pushrod-actuated overhead valves. It made 40 horsepower, weighed 495 pounds, and had a top speed around 100 mph, more than enough performance to outrun most British 650s of the day. In 1959, Harley unleashed the XLCH, a 55-horsepower, 480-pound hot rod that cemented the Sportster’s go-fast reputation.
Today, 65 years after the XL’s debut, there’s still an air-cooled 883cc Sportster in Harley-Davidson’s lineup: the Iron 883. Making 54 horsepower and weighing 564 pounds, it has a lower power-to-weight ratio than a ’59 XLCH, and by modern standards, the Sportster is no longer sporty.
YOU SAY YOU WANT A REVOLUTION
Harley-Davidson puts its air-cooled Sportsters – the Iron 883 and the 1,200cc Forty-Eight – in its Cruiser category. Last year it added a new category – Sport – that includes only one model: the Sportster S. Designated RH1250S rather than XL, the new Sportster occupies a distinct branch of the Harley family tree. It’s built around a 121-horsepower “T” version of the liquid-cooled, 1,252cc Revolution Max V-Twin found in the Pan America adventure bike, and it weighs 503 pounds ready-to-ride. Compare that to Harley’s Evo-powered Forty-Eight, which makes 66 horsepower and tips the scales at 556 pounds.
Both the Iron 883 and Forty-Eight are available as 2022 models, so air-cooled XLs aren’t going away (yet). They appeal to cruiser traditionalists: those who want familiarity and simplicity, and those for whom the look, sound, and feel of an air-cooled 45-degree V-Twin are more important than outright performance.
The Sportster S carves out another niche in the market, appealing to a different sort of buyer: those who want a light, powerful, sophisticated American-made V-Twin. That sounds a lot like the Indian FTR S, the Sportster S’ closest competitor. Both are powered by liquid-cooled, DOHC, 60-degree V-Twins that make about 120 horsepower (factory claims). Both are equipped with ride modes, cornering ABS and traction control, and other modern electronics, and their base prices are $14,999.
But the Sportster S is a low-profile, feet-forward cruiser, whereas the FTR S is a sport-standard with an upright seating position and rear-set footpegs. Not exactly apples to apples. Indian’s Scout Bobber, on the other hand, more closely matches the Harley’s cruiser layout, so we’ve included it here. It’s also powered by a liquid-cooled, DOHC, 60-degree V-Twin, but with less displacement and a lower state of tune than the FTR’s motor. Making a claimed 100 horsepower, the Bobber’s engine output is well below the others, and its only electronic riding aid is ABS (a $900 option), but its base price is $4,000 below that of the Sportster S and FTR S.
CURB APPEAL
These bikes are tightly packaged machines, with bodywork kept to an absolute minimum. They all have radiators, and designers did their best to keep hoses and associated plumbing tucked away. The Scout has a tall, narrow radiator wedged between the rectangular downtubes of its cast-aluminum frame. The sportier FTR and Sportster have shorter, wider radiators with small shrouds on the sides that help them blend in.
More differences are apparent when looking at them parked side by side. With the lowest seat height (by 4 inches), longest wheelbase (by 2 inches), and stacked exhaust pipes that extend just past the trailing edge of the rear tire, the Scout is more slammed and stretched out than the others. And as the most traditionally styled of the three, it has the proportions and stance one expects from a cruiser.
The FTR is at the other end of the spectrum. With the most ground clearance, longest rear suspension travel (by 2.7 inches), and loftiest seat height (by 2.8 inches), it stands much taller than the others. Mirrors perched above the handlebar on antenna-like stalks further add to its height, while the others have bar-end mirrors. Upswept brushed-aluminum Akrapovič mufflers, an exposed rear shock with a red spring, and 17-inch wheels with matching red pinstripes give the FTR the sportiest appearance of the three.
The Sportster has a unique cut to its jib. It has a mix of glossy, matte, and brushed surfaces, and a mix of styling influences. Its high pipes and tidy tailsection are inspired by XR750 dirt trackers. Its pill-shaped LED headlight and chunky tires take a page out of the Fat Bob’s playbook, while its elongated teardrop tank is a big departure from the peanut tanks of other Sportsters. And its tubular-steel trellis frame, swingarm, and license-plate hanger hew fairly close to what’s found on the FTR.
BEHIND BARS
Differences in dimensions and stance affect ergonomics. With its long-and-low profile, 25.6-inch seat height, forward-set foot controls, and minimal pullback to the handlebar, the Scout Bobber puts the rider in a classic “clamshell” seating position with a tight hip angle, even more so for those with long legs. The Scout’s solo seat is reasonably plush, but with one’s legs and arms stretched out, style trumps comfort. As the lowest bike of the bunch, it also has less cornering clearance than the others – just 29 degrees vs. 34 degrees for the Sportster and 43 degrees for the FTR. Boot heels touch pavement first, but on some right turns the bottom of the lower exhaust pipe scraped, leaving an unsightly scar of raw metal on the matte-black finish.
To accommodate its greater lean angles, the Sportster’s forward controls are positioned higher than the Scout’s (Harley offers mid-mount controls as a $660 accessory). Its solo seat is perched 29.6 inches above the pavement, which is on the tall side for a cruiser. The narrow, thinly padded saddle had us seeking relief long before the low-fuel light came on, exacerbated by the fact that the Sportster, like the Scout, locks the rider in place and has minimal rear suspension travel. Of the three, the Sportster has the most cramped cockpit, limiting its appeal among tall riders.
With a sport-standard seating position, the FTR feels altogether different than the two cruisers. The rider sits more upright, with a comfortable reach to the wide handlebar and a moderate forward lean to the upper body. Rear-set pegs put the rider’s feet directly below their hips, opening the hip angle at the expense of more knee bend. Our test riders were unanimous in declaring the FTR the most comfortable of the three, and it felt the most natural at a sporting pace. The 32.2-inch seat height may be a challenge for some, but the saddle has the thickest padding and it’s the only one here that accommodates a passenger (without digging into the accessory catalogs).
THE SOUND & THE FURY
There’s a reason nearly every motorcycle made in America has a V-Twin. The engine configuration delivers a visceral pulse that engages the rider, producing a rhythmic sound that can be both felt and heard. There’s nothing lazy about the 60-degree V-Twins that power these three. At idle, they emit a steady staccato rather than a loping beat. None of the stock exhausts are especially loud, but the Scout’s pipes play a deep rumbling tune that was sweetest to our ears.
The Harley’s Revolution Max engine is the only one here with variable valve timing, which optimizes power delivery across the rev range. Despite the Sportster’s added tech and 49cc displacement advantage over the FTR (1,252cc vs. 1,203cc), when strapped to Jett Tuning’s rear-wheel dyno, they generated nearly identical peak horsepower (116.0 vs. 115.7). Where VVT delivers the goods, however, is in the heart of the rev range – the Sportster makes 5-10 more horsepower than the FTR between 4,000 and 7,000 rpm. The Harley also doesn’t trail off as quickly after the peak as the FTR and it revs out further. In terms of torque, the Sportster clearly dominates the FTR, generating the highest peak (89.0 vs 82.7 lb-ft) and a 5-12 lb-ft advantage from 4,000-7,000 rpm.
The Scout is outgunned by the Sportster and the FTR, maxing out at 85.2 horsepower and 64.5 lb-ft of torque, but its 1,133cc mill is perfectly suited for cruiser duty. What the Scout lacks in sheer grunt it makes up for in simple enjoyment. Unlike the others, it doesn’t have throttle-by-wire or ride modes, and there’s a pleasant analog connection between the right grip and the rear wheel. The Scout is the only bike here without a slip/assist-type clutch, and squeezing its lever requires the heaviest pull. Clutch action is lightest and gear changes are easiest on the Sportster. Compared to the Harley, the FTR felt less refined, with inconsistent clutch engagement (especially when the engine is cold), uneven fueling at steady throttle, and a coarser feel at higher revs.
’ROUND THE BEND
Apart from ergonomics and engine performance, these three bikes offer distinct riding experiences. As the longest, lowest, and heaviest (by 45-50 pounds) of the three, it’s not surprising that the Scout Bobber requires the most effort to steer through a series of tight turns. It rolls on 16-inch wheels front and rear, and the semi-knobby tread on its Pirelli MT60RS dulls response and feedback. Up front, the Scout’s single 298mm disc is squeezed by a 2-piston caliper, with hydraulic fluid sent through an axial master cylinder and braided steel lines. Braking power is adequate, but the Scout’s front lever doesn’t provide the precise feedback found on the Sportster and FTR, both of which are equipped with Brembo radial master cylinders. Furthermore, since it doesn’t have an IMU like the others, the Scout’s ABS does not compensate for lean angle.
One of the Scout’s biggest limitations, which it shares with the Sportster, is a mere 2 inches of rear suspension travel. The Scout has dual shocks that are adjustable for spring preload only, while the Sportster has a single, fully adjustable piggyback reservoir shock with a linkage. Even though the Harley has more premium suspension with better damping, there’s only so much that can be done with so little travel. Few bumps pass unnoticed and big ones can be jarring, unsettling the chassis and sapping confidence, especially on the Scout.
At first glance, one would think that the fat front tire on the Sportster – a 160/70-17 that’s wider than the Scout’s 150/80-16 rear tire – would be an impediment to handling, but it has a triangular profile that helps it turn in. The Harley slices and dices confidently, with reasonably light steering and a solid, planted feel when on the edge of its tires. At higher speeds, however, the added weight of the front tire slows steering. The Sportster feels more eager than the Indians, especially in Sport mode, and it launches itself out of corners.
As part of its 2022 update, Indian sensibly shifted the FTR away from its flat-track origins and amped up its street-readiness. The 19-/18-inch wheels with quasi-knobby tires were replaced with 17-inch hoops shod with grippy Metzeler Sportec M9 RR tires, steering geometry was tightened up, and suspension travel was reduced by more than an inch. The changes made the FTR a better corner carver in every respect. Although the Sportster will quickly pull away from the Scout on a tight, twisting road thanks to its superior power-to-weight ratio, the FTR has a definite edge on the Harley in terms of cornering clearance and braking performance.
With 4.7 inches of travel front and rear, the FTR’s fully adjustable suspension has more leeway than the Sportster’s to absorb the inevitable imperfections on public roads. With more fork and shock stroke to work with, as well as the best damping among this trio, the FTR’s chassis stays more composed, allowing its rider to stay focused on the road ahead rather than avoiding bumps. The FTR also has the best brakes of the bunch, delivering impressive stopping power and feel at the lever. It’s the only bike here with dual discs up front, a pair of 320mm rotors clamped by radial 4-piston calipers. The Sportster makes do with a single 320mm front disc that’s gripped by a monoblock 4-piston caliper, and its braking performance is a close second to the FTR.
COMING OUT ON TOP
This is not your typical comparison test. These three bikes have as many differences as they do similarities, but there are some common threads. They’re made in America by companies that were fierce rivals in the past and became direct competitors again nearly a decade ago. And they have liquid-cooled, 60-degree V-Twins that depart from air-cooled tradition. Beyond that, the threads begin to unravel.
Both the Scout and Sportster carry historic nameplates originally associated with speed, but more recently have come to represent smaller, more affordable cruisers in their respective lineups. The Scout Bobber, a darker, lower variation of the standard Scout, best represents cruiser tradition. Its styling is more elemental than the Sportster or FTR, appearing old-school even though its engine architecture, cast-aluminum frame, and optional ABS are contemporary. The Bobber delivers more performance than most typical cruisers, yet its no-frills spec sheet helps keep its base price to just $10,999–$4,000 less than the others. That’s a trade-off plenty of buyers are more than happy to make.
The new Sportster S, like the Pan America with which it shares the Rev Max engine platform, represents the future of Harley-Davidson. Street Glides, Road Glides, Softails, etc. are – and will continue to be – the bread and butter of The Motor Company’s dominant on-highway market share in the U.S. But today’s motorcycle manufacturers think on a global scale, and high-tech engines and electronics that can satisfy increasingly stringent emissions and safety standards are essential.
There is, at best, a tenuous connection between the Sportster S and the iconic XL line, but H-D hopes its instantly recognizable name will help it succeed in the marketplace. Its fat tires, high pipes, bulldog stance, and mash-up of styling influences won’t appeal to everyone, but there’s no denying the performance of its engine or the capability of its chassis. The Revolution Max V-Twin is the Sportster S’ greatest attribute. Limited rear suspension travel, on the other hand, is its greatest limitation.
As a motorcycle we’d want to live with every day, the Indian FTR S is the clear winner here. Its street-tracker styling either appeals to you or it doesn’t (count us as fans), but from the standpoint of functionality and rider engagement, the FTR S checks all the right boxes. Compared to the Sportster S, the Indian’s engine is weaker in the midrange and feels rougher around the edges, but the FTR handles better, has the best brakes, is the most comfortable, and has standard passenger accommodations. Like the Sportster S, it has ride modes, modern electronic rider aids, cruise control, a USB charging port, Bluetooth connectivity, and a color TFT display, with the added convenience of a touchscreen.
With the FTR platform’s recent update, Indian has had a few years to work out the kinks, and the current iteration is a much better streetbike than the original. In addition to the FTR S tested here, there are three other variants to choose from: the base-model FTR ($12,999), the scrambler-styled FTR Rally ($13,999), and the top-of-the-line FTR R Carbon ($16,999). Harley-Davidson won’t rest on its laurels, and there will surely be updates to the Sportster S and spin-off models in the years ahead.
Free on-roads on 111ci Thunder Stroke models
And up to $3000 of accessories
Up to $2000 of accessories with Scout and Bobber
Indian Motorcycles have announced some great deals on their MY19 Thunder Stroke 111 models, as they make room for 2020 stock, with all new and demonstrator models coming with free on-road costs, plus $1000 to $3000 worth of genuine accessories or apparel for a limited time.
The same offer is also available on all new and demonstrator Scout and Bobbers models, with up to $2000 worth of accessories, but excludes FTR 1200 models – although they are running a separate special on the FTR to celebrate another season of dominating the American Flat Track championship.
Indian Thunder Stroke 111 models boast three selectable ride modes – Tour, Standard or Sport, and introduced rear-cylinder deactivation, offering better comfort in slow moving traffic, or at a stop thanks to reduced heat generation.
2018 also saw the Thunder Stroke gain 15 horsepower and 15Nm, alongside the announcement of a new 116-cubic-inch kit, while 2020 will see the adoption of the 116 onto select models as standard fitment for the first time.
The Thunder Stroke 111 runs a bore and stroke of 101mm by 113mm for a displacement of 1811cc, a 9.5:1 compression ratio and peak torque of 151Nm or 111lbs-ft, available at 3000rpm. You’ll find the Thunder Stroke 111 in Indian’s Cruiser, Bagger, Touring, Dark Horse and Elite model lines – which you can check out at the Indian Motorcycle Australia website (link).
On the Scout you’ll find a sporty liquid-cooled 69-cubic-inch 60-degree V-twin, running a higher 10.7:1 compression ratio and boasting a bore x stroke of 99 x 73.6mm, with Indian boasting an impressive 100 horsepower, alongside 97.7Nm or torque, or 72lbs-ft at 6000rp. You can check out the Scout range, including the Scout Bobber at the Indian Motorcycle Australia website (link).
Indian Motorcycle has announced that GP legend Randy Mamola will be campaigning the Workhorse Speedshop racer in the full Sultans of Sprint series, on the modified Scout Bobber nicknamed ‘Appaloosa’, which made its first public appearance at The Reunion in Monza.
Randy Mamola
“I’ve always been a big fan of Indian Motorcycle and I’m really looking forward to racing this amazing creation. It’s great to be part of this project, especially during the Scout’s 100th anniversary. With the Sultans of Sprint being such a unique series, it’s going to be a lot of fun soaking up the atmosphere, meeting the crowds and putting on a show for them.”
Built by Brice Hennebert of Workhorse Speedshop to honour the Indian Scout’s 100th anniversary, ‘Appaloosa’ is named after the famous breed of horse.
Brice Hennebert – Workhorse Speedshop
“I wanted a name that could link Workhorse, Indian Motorcycle and speed. As soon as I discovered that the American horse breed Appaloosa was one of the world’s fastest horses, I knew I had the name for an American sprint bike built by Workhorse. After putting so much into this build, I’m excited to see the reaction to it and I can’t wait to see Randy blast it down the racetrack.”
Outfitted with a bespoke racing suit created by Alpinestars, inspired by the racing suits they provide for the Indian Wrecking Crew, Randy will be competing in the Factory Class under race number #19 to celebrate 1919, the year the original Indian Scout was first revealed.
In the Factory Class, motorcycles must be four-stroke (air or water cooled) with no limit regarding the engine capacity providing that the tuned bike does not exceed a power-to-weight ratio limit of 0.65bhp/kg.
‘Appaloosa’ is the culmination of over 700 hours of design and fabrication by Workhorse and has been supported with technical expertise and premium components from project partners Akrapovič, Beringer Brakes, MOTOREX, Öhlins, and Vibrant Performance.
After completely stripping the Scout Bobber, Brice cut and narrowed the original fuel tank, retaining the side profile, to create a cover for a new aluminium fuel cell which holds just 2.5 litres for sprint racing. With the fuel cell in place, work focussed on the riding position, a critical element for quick starts.
A new sub-frame was fabricated to better support the rider under hard acceleration and combines with lower clip-on handlebars and drag-style foot controls to tilt the rider forward and keep weight over the front wheel.
To further enhance traction when the flag drops, Brice designed and welded an extended aluminium swingarm. With parts CNC machined from his drawings by Beringer Brakes, the swingarm is mated to advanced, fully adjustable suspension technology from Öhlins.
Matching the STX 36 piggyback rear shock absorbers, Öhlins also supplied Retro 43 front forks and a steering damper to ensure the best possible grip and stability enabling the full performance of the bike to be utilised.
With a rolling chassis and elements of the streamlined fairing starting to take shape, Brice took Appaloosa to Akrapovič where a bespoke titanium exhaust system was created for maximum power and the best possible sound.
Without making any internal modifications, engine power has been increased to 130hp with a combination of the Akrapovič exhaust, a racing ECU, Power Commander, direct intake, Nitrous Oxide Injection system and MOTOREX oil. To get the power to the tarmac, the original belt drive has been converted to chain drive and a quickshifter ensures swift and precise gear changes.
Bringing the rapid racer to a controlled stop is the complete 4D Aerotec braking system from Beringer Brakes. The 4D system features two Ø230mm discs per caliper for increased power over standard single discs as well as reduced inertia to aid acceleration. Beringer Brakes also supplied the handlebar controls and buttons as well as CNC machining many of the parts designed by Brice.
Using hosing supplied by Vibrant Performance the cooling system has been simplified for weight reduction and for a cleaner look around the engine. Additional components from Vibrant such as welded dash connectors, fuel and water tank caps and heat protection hoses add finishing touches to Appaloosa.
As well as competing in the Sultans of Sprint championship, Indian Motorcycle also plans to have the bike on static display in the UK at The Bike Shed (24 – 26 May) and during Wheels & Waves in France (12 – 16 June).
Sultans of Sprint Championship 2019
18 – 19 May – The Reunion Monza, Italy
22 – 23 June – Café Racer Festival Monthléry, France
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