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More Indian Challenger liquid models coming

Indian Motorcycle last year launched their fixed-fairing, liquid-cooled Challenger bagger aimed squarely at the Harley-Davidson Road Glide.

Now, patent drawings show the new 1770cc Powerplus engine will also be fitted to more models in the range targeting Harley’s Street Glide and Ultra.

The new drawings show the “ugly” blunt nose with double headlights has been replaced with a more traditional or Harleyesque single headlight and “batwing” fairing with a large touring screen.More Indian Challenger liquid models coming

They also show a shorter rear fender, but no bags. However, it would be expected the bike would come in a variety of tourers and cruisers with and without panniers.

The current Challenger range consists of the Limited at $A39,995 ride away and the matte black Dark Horse at $39,995.

Features include LED headlight, 19-inch cast front wheel and 16-inch rear 7-inch touchscreen, Bluetooth, cruise control and keyless ignition.

The Limited has Smart Lean Technology with 6-axis Bosch IMU, Dynamic traction control, ABS with cornering control, and Drag Torque Control.

We expect these new Challenger models will have similar features and model designations.More Indian Challenger liquid models coming

Liquid cooled

They will be fitted with the same liquid-cooled 1770cc Powerplus motor which is smaller than the current 111-cube (1811cc) Thunderstroke V-twin that powers the Chief and Roadmaster models.

However, with 91kW of power (122hp) and 178Nm of torque it is more powerful than the Thunderstroke with 58kW/161Nm.

It also meets coming stringent Euro5 emissions regulations thanks to the liquid cooling.

And with lower fairings, the liquid motor’s radiator will be a little less obvious!

Even though the patent drawings were filed in 2017, they are only now publicly available.

So the production bike shouldn’t be far away!

Source: MotorbikeWriter.com

Indian Challenger touring range unveiled

The Indian Challenger fixed-fairing touring range powered by the new liquid-cooled 1770cc Powerplus engine has finally been unveiled.

Neither has been much of a secret with leaks and spy photos for months.

The Challenger looks like an Indian version of the Harley-Davidson Road Glide with its frame-mounted fairing providing more stability with light steering and agility.

Features include LED headlight, 19-inch cast front wheel and 16-inch rear 7-inch touchscreen, Bluetooth, cruise control and keyless ignition.

There are three colour options, black, blue and red.

Handling is aided by upside-down 43mm forks and a hydraulically adjustable Fox rear shock.

The Challenger has a lightweight cast-aluminium frame, Metzeler Cruisetec tires and stopping power is provided by race-spec, radially-mounted Brembo brakes.Indian Challenger

It will come in three models: Challenger ($US21,499), a blacked-out Challenger Dark Horse ($US27,999) and flagship Challenger Limited ($US27,999).

The Limited has Smart Lean Technology with 6-axis Bosch IMU, Dynamic traction control, ABS with cornering control, and Drag Torque Control.

There is no word yet from Indian Motorcycle Australia on arrival and pricing but those prices are similar to the Springfield which retails here for $A35,495 (ride away).

Powerplus power

As we reported back in April, the liquid-cooled, DOHC 1770cc V-twin engine produces 91kW of power (122hp) and 178Nm of torque.

It is believed the quad-valve Powerplus was originally developed as the Victory Freedom V2 before Polaris axed the brand in 2017.

The new liquid cooled Powerplus powered motorcycle range are smaller than the current 111-cube Thunderstroke V-twin that powers the Chief and Roadmaster models.

Click here for more details on the engine and watch and listen to it in action below.

Indian Challenger (2020) 
Power 91kW (122hp)
Torque 178Nm at 3800rpm
Type V-Twin PowerPlus
Bore and Stroke 52mm dual bore
Displacement 1769cc
Fuelling Closed loop fuel injection
Length 2500.7mm
Width 990.2m
Height 1427.5mm
Wheelbase 1667.8m
Clearance 137.3mm
Seat 672mm
Weight (wet) 377kg
Fuel Tank Capacity  22.7L
Transmission 6-speed
Clutch Type Gear Drive Wet Clutch
Indian Challenger
Indian Challenger
7-inch screen
Indian Challenger
Challenger Limited
Challenger dark Horse
Challenger Dark Horse
Indian Challenger
Indian Challenger
Challenger Limited

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Indian Challenger bagger spy photos

More spy photos have emerged for the upcoming Challenger bagger from Indian Motorcycle believed to be powered by a liquid-cooled 1770cc engine called the Powerplus.

We are not allowed to tell you where the blurry photos came from, but the bike looks like a “challenger” to the Harley-Davidson Road Glide.2020 Indian Challenger spy bagger

Like the Road Glide, it appears to have a big, frame-mounted fairing.

While it may look bulbous and ugly, a frame-mounted fairing has less weave effect on the bike’s stability at high speed.

Earlier this year, a video from the company dealer conference in the USA emerged showing the Powerplus engine.

The video was taken down, but is still available on Motorcycle.com.

Powerplus V-twin

The video confirmed our tip in April that it would be a 90kW (120hp), liquid-cooled, DOHC 1770cc V-twin engine.

It is believed the quad-valve Powerplus was originally developed as the Victory Freedom V2 before Polaris axed the brand in 2017.

The new Powerplus-powered motorcycle range will be smaller than the current 111-cube Thunderstroke V-twin that powers the Chief and Roadmaster models.

It is not yet known how many models will be in the range and whether they will replace the Chief and Roadmaster models or be an extra line-up.

Bagger names

We are still not 100% certain that the big bagger will be called the Challenger.

The company trademarked the name Raven in December, Renegade in January and Challenger in April.

Also in April the photo below was leaked of the bagger

Indian apollo raptor
Spy photo

You can see it is powered by the Powerplus engine. It also features LED “bracket-shaped lights as in the above video.

The same month a brochure was leaked that showed several new Apollo variants of its popular FTR 1200 and dark MiniBall versions of its Scout range.

2020 Indian Raptor Apollo
Part of the Indian brochure

None of these emerged when Indian announced their 2020 fleet earlier this month.

Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
2020 Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity

The biggest announcement was that engine capacity was increased from 111 cubes to 116 (1818cc) on selected Thunderstroke models.

So we expect these other models, including the bagger, will be in next year’s line-up.

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Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity

Indian Motorcycle has increased engine capacity to up the ante over Harley-Davidson with select Thunderstroke models now having a 116 engine, replacing the 111 (1818cc).

Actually it’s 115ci (1884cc), but it’s still a 20% power boost over the 111.

The “116” was previously an aftermarket upgrade big bore kit, but is now standard in the Springfield Dark Horse, plus all Chieftain and Roadmaster models.

Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
2020 Chieftain Elite

It features a new high-flow cylinder head with 168Nm of torque.

The engine capacity move leapfrogs Harley-Davidson’s Milwaukee-Eight 114 (1868cc) engine which is available in select models, such as the new Low Rider S. (We will road test it at the Australian media launch in Sydney next week, attended by Harley boss Matt Levatich.)

However, it’s still short of Harley’s CVO models with the Milwaukee Eight 117-cube (1923cc).

There is no word on the rumoured Indian Challenger models powered by a new liquid-cooled 1770cc engine called the Powerplus.

Aussie rideaway pricing

Model 2020 price 2019 price
Scout Bobber $19,995.00 $19,995.00
Scout Bobber Twenty $21,995.00
Scout $19,995-$20,995 $19,995.00
Scout 100th Ann $22,995.00
Chief Classic Dark Horse (111ci) $30,995.00 $29,995.00
Chief Vintage (111ci) $32,995-$33,995 $32,995.00
Springfield (111ci) $34,995.00 $35,495.00
Springfield Dark Horse (116ci) $36,995.00
Chieftain Limited (116ci) $38,995.00 $37,995.00
Chieftain Dark Horse (116ci) $38,995.00 $37,495.00
Chieftain Elite (116ci) $49,995.00
Roadmaster (116ci) $41,995-$43,995 $40,995.00
Roadmaster Dark Horse (116ci) $41,995.00

Indian Motorcycle Australia and New Zealand marketing manager Chris Gale says the price difference for the same model in the table above is for two-tone or metallic paint options over the single or standard paint.

Engine capacity upgrade

Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
2020 Chieftain Elite

The engine upgrade follows the recent announcement of Scout upgrades and two new models, the Bobber Twenty and limited-edition 100th Anniversary.

The Thunder Stroke 116 features rear-cylinder deactivation to keep riders cooler when sitting for long spells at the traffic lights.

Harley had the feature some time ago but dropped it.

RideCommand update

Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
2020 Roadmaster Dark Horse RideCommand Infotainment system

Indian has also revamped their very comprehensive RideCommand infotainment system and app.

It now features a quad-core processor which they claim will make it faster to load and respond.

New features include “Google-like” predictive destination search capabilities and customisable 18cm touchscreen.

Roadmaster Dark Horse

Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
Roadmaster Dark Horse

The Roadmaster Dark Horse features a streamlined fairing, slammed saddlebags, 19-inch front wheel with an open fender, an extended reach Rogue gunfighter seat, blacked-out engine and matte paint.

Springfield Dark Horse

Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
Springfield Dark Horse

This is similar in style to the 2020 Jack Daniel’s Limited Edition Indian Springfield Dark Horse launched at Daytona Bike Week.

It features slammed saddlebags, Rogue seat, 12-inch mini apes and blacked-out finishes.

Chieftain Elite

Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
2020 Chieftain Elite

The big tourer gets a streamlined fairing, slammed saddlebags and PowerBand Audio Plus system.

It comes in a two-tone Thunder Black Vivid Crystal over Wildfire Candy paint with matching motor highlights and badging, Precision Machined Elite wheels, Pinnacle Mirrors, Select Rider Floorboards, and a Flare Windshield.


Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
Chief Dark Horse

Even though they don’t get the engine capacity upgrade, Chief Dark Horse and Chief Vintage now have the same chassis as the Springfield and Springfield Dark Horse to improve handling.

They also now have adjustable rear suspension and a 17-inch front wheel.


Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity

Indian says the 2020 Roadmaster is lighter but don’t quote figures.

The top box has also been redesigned.


  • Chief Dark Horse: Thunder Black Smoke
  • Chief Vintage: Thunder Black; Willow Green over Ivory Cream
  • Springfield: Thunder Black; Burgundy Metallic over Titanium Metallic
  • Springfield Dark Horse: Thunder Black Smoke; Sagebrush Smoke; White Smoke
  • Chieftain Dark Horse: Thunder Black Smoke; Ruby Smoke; Titanium Smoke
Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
Chieftain Dark Horse
  • Chieftain Limited: Thunder Black Pearl; Radar Blue; Thunder Black Pearl with graphics package
  • Chieftain Elite: Thunder Black Vivid Crystal over Wildfire Red Candy
  • Roadmaster: Thunder Black; Burgundy Metallic; Pearl White over Titanium Metallic with black Pinstripe; Titanium Smoke over Thunder Black Smoke with silver pinstripe
  • Roadmaster Dark Horse: Thunder Black Smoke; White Smoke; Ruby Smoke
Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
Chieftain Limited


  • Stage 1 Slip-On Exhaust in black or chrome;
  • Stage 1 Oval Slip-On Muffler Kit and Stage 1 Performance Air Intake (4 power increase on 111 and 8% on 116);
  • Stage 2 Performance Cams (13% horsepower increase on 111);
  • Thunder Stroke 116 Stage 2 Performance Kit includes cams, higher flowing fuel injectors and throttle body (17% horsepower boost when paired with both Stage 1 accessories);
  • Thunder Stroke 116 Stage 3 Big Bore Kit (20% more horsepower);
  • Headdress Passenger Floorboards;
  • Headdress Rider Floorboards;
  • 12” Quick Release Passenger Sissy Bar;
  • Passenger Backrest Pad; and
  • 12-inch Ape Hanger Handlebars for Chief and Springfield models.

    Indian Motorcycle increases engine capacity
    2020 Springfield

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Indian mark 100th with Scout updates and new models

For 2020, the Indian Scout gets a new model and a limited edition to mark its 100th anniversary, plus better brakes, tyres and a host of accessories for current models.

However, there is no word on updates to the rest of the Indian range nor the expected Challenger models powered by a new liquid-cooled 1770cc engine called the Powerplus.

Indian Challenger Powerplus 100th
Indian Challenger Powerplus V-twin

Pricing will be announced on September 11, says Indian Motorcycle Australia and New Zealand marketing manager Chris Gale.

“We will be selling the 100th Anniversary and Bobber Twenty in Australia and will receive stock later this year. No dates confirmed,” he says.

The Scout Sixty is not returning to Aussie showrooms “any time soon”, he says.

Bobber Twenty

Indian Scout 100th Anniversary
2020 Indian Scout Bobber Twenty

The new Scout is a Bobber Twenty which refers to 1920 and pays homage to the original Scout in its 100th year since it began.

In acknowledgement of its tradition it comes with classic wire wheels, 10-inch ape hanger handlebars and a floating saddle like the original.

Expect a small premium over the standard ride-away Bobber price of $A18,995.

They come in a choice of Thunder Black, Sagebrush Smoke (green) and Burnished Metallic (red).

Scout 100th Anniversary

Indian Scout 100th Anniversary
Limited-edition 2020 Indian Scout 100th Anniversary.

Only 750 limited-edition 100th Anniversary models will be available worldwide.

It is highlighted by the “100th” badge on the engine and features “Indian Motorcycle Red” paint with “Anniversary Gold” trim, a desert tan leather solo seat, black wire wheels, beach bars, a luggage rack and chrome finishes.

Indian Scout 100th Anniversary
Limited-edition 2020 Indian Scout 100th Anniversary

In the US, they cost an extra 28% more than the standard model, so they could be around $A24,000.

Scout updates

Indian Scout 100th Anniversary
2020 Indian Scout Bobber

Scout and Scout Bobber models get upgraded brake callipers, master cylinders and floating rotors.

Bobber now comes with Pirelli MT60RS tyres.

All other Scout models get a new sport seat and passenger pegs.

There will be quite a colour range to choose from.

Indian Scout 100th Anniversary
2020 Indian Scout.


For those who want to convert these competent cruisers into competent tourers, there is a host of accessories.

The most interesting is the colour-matched quick-release bikini fairing with a 5cm windscreen or optional 12cm and 18cm screens.

There is also a solo luggage rack and solo rack bag and new semi-rigid quick-release saddlebags.

Indian Scout 100th Anniversary
2020 Indian Scout.

Other accessories include a new Bobber seat plus bar-end mirrors, smoked turn signal lenses, tinted windshields and various handlebar and foot control options for the standard Scout.

To cap it off are new stage 1 shorty slip-on mufflers and a 2-into-1 full exhaust system.

Source: MotorbikeWriter.com

Harley-Davidson Electra Glide review

When the mercury plummeted to -2C it was the only time I wished I’d been on the Harley-Davidson Street Glide instead of its striped down stalemate, the new Electra Glide Standard.

The return of the famous Electra Glide name from the ’60s when the iconic batwing fairing was introduced is marked by this stripped-down version of the top-selling Street Glide.

Harley has stripped $1500 off the price of the Street Glide by deleting the music infotainment system, heel shifter, pillion seat, USB output, windscreen vent button and those grip warmers.

It is only available in “Vivid Black” and costs $34,495 ride-away ($NZ37,995) which compares with the Street Glide at $36,995.

Cold as iceHarley-Davidson Electra Glide Standard

I didn’t know it was -2C until my mates told me later because ambient temperature info is only available on the infotainment system. However, my fingers certainly told me.

We were on the second day of our five-day ride through NSW and we had just left Glen Innes, heading south into even colder climes.Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Standard

The batwing fairing was providing reasonable protection and my winter gloves were only just coping, but I had forgotten to put in a set of of hand warmers I had bought for just $10 at a servo. They were still in my panniers!

After stopping to warm up with a coffee at Guyra, the ambient temperature had rocketed to about zero, so I didn’t bother inserting the hand warmers in my gloves. I found the fairing offered enough protection, anyway.

So if, like me, you rarely ride in such freezing conditions, you probably don’t need grip warmers on this bike.

If you find music distracting while riding or use a helmet intercom, like me, then you also won’t need the infotainment system. I find they are pointless for music over 80km/h anyway.

So with the $1500 saved, I would invest in better rear shocks to improve and lift the rear ride. The hand-adjustable emulsion-technology rear shock absorbers are ok, but a bit too short for NSW’s bumpy country back roads.Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Standard

Yes, I know the idea is to provide a “slammed” rear end for that hot-rod look, but it lowers clearance to 120mm, which is 5mm less than the Street Glide and 15mm less than the plush-riding Road King.

On some of the terrible northern NSW roads, it hit the bump stops on many occasions with the shock waves pounding through my already bad back.

I also didn’t miss the heel shifter, USB output and the button that closes the backdraft vent. It didn’t allow rain in as I’d expected.

However, it would be handy to have a lockable door on the gaping hole where the infotainment system was. It would be useful as a secure glove compartment.Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Standard

Creature features

Despite the stripped-down “unnecessary” features, the Electra Glide still has a lot of bling.

For example, chrome has been added to the rocker, cam and derby covers to emphasise the V-Twin shape of the Milwaukee-Eight 107 engine.

There are also practical features such as electronic cruise control, 49mm front forks with dual bending valve suspension and Reflex Linked Brembo Brakes with ABS.

Those forks are much better for sorting out the NSW country road bumps than the rear shock.Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Standard

They keep the front wheel on the ground and provide good feel and traction which was handy in the wet conditions we encountered over the Thunderbolts Way.

I had a few slippery moments thanks to the slick combination of cold and wet, yet the big, black Hog was miles ahead of my BMW-riding colleagues by the end of the road.

Most of those “moments” came from the rear, anyway, on account of my over-exuberant right hand. It surprises me that Harley hasn’t added traction control yet.

I suspect it will come in their next round of Touring updates as they already have it on their Trikes.

Milwaukee Eight2017 Harley-Davidson 107 Milwaukee Eight engine in a Road King Classic millennials electra glide

The biggest delight on my five-day tour and subsequent rides around a warmer South East Queensland over the past couple of weeks has been the Milwaukee Eight engine.

I’ve been a big fan ever since I first fired one up at the 2016 world launch in Tacoma and noticed the lack of thump and bluster.

The ninth-generation “big twin” has become more sophisticate with eight valves — hence the name — yet has returned to the old single overhead cam design. It is also now double counterbalanced.

This all results in a much more refined, smoother, more powerful, flexible, responsive and economical engine. Despite giving it a handful, it returned just over 5L/100km.Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Standard

The transmission has also been updated. There is less clunk in the gears, neutral is easier to find and sixth is no longer only for illegal speeds on the highway.

Roll-on acceleration is effortless at any revs, although there is a sweet spot around 3000 revs that pulls your cheeks apart in a big wide smile.

Despite having massive pistons throbbing around in this 107-cube (1745cc) unit, it feels polished and civilised.


If you don’t need the infotainment system, grip warmers, heel shifter, USB port or pillion seat, then save yourself some money and try the Electra Glide Standard.Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Standard

  • Price: $A34,495  ($NZ37,995)
  • Engine: Milwaukee-Eight 107, 1745cc, SOHC, eight-valve
  • Power: Not available
  • Torque: 315Nm
  • Bore x stroke: 100 x 111mm
  • Compression: 10:1
  • Transmission: six-speed, belt drive
  • Length: 2400mm
  • Seat: 680mm
  • Clearance: 120mm
  • Wheelbase: 1625mm
  • Tyres: 130/80B17 65H; 180/65B16 81H
  • Tank: 22.7 litres
  • Wet weight: 372kg
  • Lean angles: 31 degrees (right), 29 (left)Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Standard

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Indian to challenge Harley’s Road Glide?

Indian Motorcycle looks like it could be throwing down a challenge to Harley-Davidson’s popular Road Glide tourer with a fixed-fairing model.

Paul from the Australian Indian Motorcycle Forum provided us with these spy photos showing a heavily disguised Indian.

The fairing is quite obviously fixed to the frame, rather than the forks.

On the Road Glide it makes the steering lighter and provides more highway stability with less turbulence-induced weave.

It’s also quite big and ugly!

“I think this is the HD Road Glide killer,” says Paul.

New engine?Indian Challenge

The images also show what looks like a different engine to the current 111ci Thunderstroke.

Paul believes it’s a quad-valve water-cooled engine which was originally developed as the Victory Freedom V2 engine before Polaris axed the brand.

“I believe the engine capacity is less than 111ci but has more power/torque,” he says.

“There is a rumour that this bike is smaller and lighter than the Thunderstroke bikes.”

The images also show twin Brembo brakes and an adjustable windshield.


The bike to challenge the Road Glide could be called the Challenger which is a name Indian recently trademarked.

The company also trademarked Raven in December and Renegade in January.

The spate of trademark filings in the US and Europe have got the industry buzzing about a possible model assault from a company which has been fairly steady in its lineup for a few years.

This is in stark contrast to their American colleagues, Harley-Davidson, who are on a plan to release 100 new models in 10 years, including electric bikes and an adventure bike.

Could Indian also be considering an electric or something totally out of the box like Harley’s Pan America adventure bike?

2020 Harley-Davidson Pan America 1250 clutch challenger
Harley Pan America

The trademarks are for the names Indian Raven, Indian Renegade and Indian Challenger for use on “motorcycles and structural parts therefor” plus “clothing namely shirts, jackets, hats and gloves”.

The use of the name “Indian Challenger” is probably to avoid any trademark infringement on the Dodge Challenger pony car.

Dodge Challenger
Dodge Challenger

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BMW appears set for 9cento production

BMW Motorrad appears to be going ahead with a production version of the Concept 9cento that converts from a solo sports bike to a two-up tourer with luggage in a matter of seconds using strong magnets.

The clue is in these design drawings filed with property offices in Germany and Brazil.

It is difficult to tell from the drawings whether the bike has the same two-in-one features of the Concept 9cento, pronounced ‘nove cento’, which means 900 in Italian.

It’s also a little less aggressive than the concept model.BMW 9cento concept tourer

But it’s still an interesting model that we suspect will have the new 850cc parallel twin engine.

The mid-sized sports tourer concept launched this time last year featured magnetic clip-on luggage that also extends the seat from solo to dual.

The drawings don’t show any luggage features.

BMW’s popular R nineT was their first bike developed with a solo-to-dual-seat conversion, but it uses mechanical latches.

Rather than fiddly mechanical attachments, the 9cento uses a powerful electromagnet that easily attaches the luggage to the lower section of the rear carrier.

Heaven forbid the magnet loses current and drops your luggage and pillion on the ground!

The BMW Motorrad Concept 9cento to be revealed at the 2018 Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este.

9cento details

The German manufacturer unveiled the 9cento at the 2018 Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este at Lake Como in Italy.

BMW has still not released any tech specs.

Other highlights are a lightweight carbon fibre triangular frame, aluminium panels, long travel suspension and two symmetrical LED headlights and twin LED taillights that feature the BMW Motorrad motif.

BMW Motorrad Head of Design Edgar Heinrich says the bike brings together sports, adventure and touring as an allrounder.

“It doesn’t always have to be about ‘bolder, bigger, brighter’ nowadays: this concept bike focuses on achieving a sense of balance,” he says.

The BMW Motorrad Concept 9cento to be revealed at the 2018 Concorso d’Eleganza Villa d’Este.

3D printed protectors

When BMW Motorrad unveiled the 9cento, they also showed leather and Kevlar jackets in similar design which is another indication of a production model looming.

They feature shoulder protectors integrated into the jacket using 3D printing.

Last year the company won an award for the carbon fibre swingarm in their HP4 Race made cheaply using 3D printing techniques.

BMW HP4 RACE swingarm

Source: MotorbikeWriter.com