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Rider Comparo: 2024 CFMOTO 800NK vs. Suzuki GSX-8S

2024 CFMOTO 800NK 2024 Suzuki GSX-8S
With short wheelbases, sporty geometry, and low curb weights, the CFMOTO 800NK and Suzuki GSX‑­8S hustle through tight corners with ease. (Photos by Kevin Wing)

Back in the ’70s, Cycle magazine coined the term “Universal Japanese Motorcycle” to refer to the proliferation of standard bikes built by the Japanese Big Four that adhered to the same formula: air‑cooled inline‑Fours with tubular cradle frames, disc front brakes, telescopic forks, and dual rear shocks.

Much has changed in the last five decades, but manufacturers still stick to tried‑and‑true formulas when designing motorcycles. These days, regardless of where bikes hail from, there has been a convergence in the middleweight class on parallel‑Twin engines because they are cost‑effective to produce, easy to package within a frame, and flexible in terms of tuning. Also known as vertical Twins because the two side‑by‑side cylinders stand upright, modern versions typically have liquid cooling, fuel injection, and a 270‑degree crankshaft that produces a V‑Twin‑like rumble.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK 2024 Suzuki GSX-8S
We put the CFMOTO 800NK (left) side-by-side with the Suzuki GSX-8S (right) for this comparo.

Last year, Suzuki, a veteran of the UJM wars, introduced a liquid‑cooled 776cc parallel‑Twin that powered two new models: the GSX‑8S naked sportbike and V‑Strom 800DE adventure bike. The engine has DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder, a 270‑degree crank, throttle‑by‑wire, and Suzuki’s patented Cross Balancer system, which minimizes vibration. The GSX‑8S is equipped with several Suzuki Intelligent Ride System electronic rider aids, including throttle response modes (Active, Basic, and Comfort), multi‑mode traction control (1, 2, 3, and Off), an up/down quickshifter, Easy Start, and Low RPM Assist.

2024 Suzuki GSX-8S
2024 Suzuki GSX-8S

Chinese manufacturer CFMOTO entered the U.S. motorcycle market in 2022 and has expanded its lineup to 11 models for 2024. One of its newest is the 800NK, a naked sportbike powered by a liquid‑cooled 799cc parallel‑Twin that’s a previous‑gen version of the KTM 790 engine, which CFMOTO now builds under a partnership agreement. Similar to Suzuki’s modular approach, the same engine is found in CFMOTO’s Ibex 800 adventure bikes. On the tech front, the 800NK has throttle‑by‑wire, throttle response modes (Sport, Street, and Rain), and cruise control but no traction control or quickshifter.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK
2024 CFMOTO 800NK

Those looking for an affordable, streetfighter‑styled motorcycle would likely cross‑shop these two bikes, especially since there’s just a $500 delta between their MSRPs: $8,999 for the Suzuki and $8,499 for the CFMOTO. To suss out their differences, we tested them back‑to‑back on local freeways and backroads and had our friend John Ethell at Jett Tuning run them on a Dynojet dynamometer.

CFMOTO 800NK vs. Suzuki GSX8S: Wonder Twin Powers, Activate!

Despite just a 23cc difference in displacement between the CFMOTO and Suzuki, there’s a significant difference in engine output. Both Twins rev out to nearly 10,000 rpm, and their dyno curves show fairly linear increases in power and flat torque curves. Past 6,000 rpm, their curves begin to diverge, with the CFMOTO climbing to 93.4 hp at 9,400 rpm while the Suzuki levels out at 75.9 hp at 8,300 rpm. Torque figures are closer, but the 800NK still has the advantage in the upper rev range, maxing out at 57.1 lb‑ft at 6,600 rpm compared to 53.3 lb‑ft at 6,700 rpm on the GSX‑8S.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK 2024 Suzuki GSX-8S dyno

The CFMOTO also has a lower curb weight, giving it a higher power‑to‑weight ratio. It weighs 410 lb with its 4.0‑gallon tank full, whereas the Suzuki weighs 445 lb with 3.7 gallons in its tank.

Differences in power and weight aren’t readily apparent at lower rpm and around‑town speeds, but the Suzuki feels more refined. The GSX‑8S starts easily when cold, idles smoothly, and has spot‑on fueling and throttle response. The 800NK, on the other hand, is slow to warm up, idles like it’s in a bad mood, and exhibits some hesitation when making throttle adjustments between 4,000 to 6,000 rpm, which corresponds to a dip in the horsepower and torque curves.

Above 6,000 rpm, however, the CFMOTO finds its groove, responding cleanly and directly to throttle inputs and making its power and weight advantages readily apparent. It flicks back and forth through tight corners more easily than the Suzuki, and a twist of the wrist catapults the 800NK ahead more rapidly than the GSX‑8S, which falls flat in the upper rev range. Although sound doesn’t necessarily affect performance, it does tap into our emotions. The CFMOTO’s more aggressive exhaust note makes for a more engaging riding experience without being too loud.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK
New for 2024, the CFMOTO 800NK charges forward with a distinctive LED running light and angular bodywork in either Nebula Black (shown) or Nebula White.

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There’s also some daylight between these bikes in terms of shifting. Both are equipped with 6‑speed transmissions with cable‑actuated slip/assist clutches. Neither bike requires much effort to change gears, but the Suzuki’s gearbox is noticeably smoother, and it’s aided by the convenience of a quickshifter. The CFMOTO has an adjustable clutch lever, but the Suzuki does not.

See all of Rider‘s CFMOTO coverage here.

More Bounce to the Ounce

When manufacturers aim for aggressive price targets, one of the most common places to cut costs is with the suspension, particularly in terms of adjustability. Both CFMOTO and Suzuki sourced their components from Japanese suspension maker KYB, and both bikes have inverted forks (43mm on the CFMOTO, 41mm on the Suzuki) and rear monoshocks. The only adjustability on the GSX‑8S is rear preload, but the 800NK offers full adjustability on the fork and rebound and preload adjustability on the shock. Ride quality between the two is fairly similar, with their damping rates calibrated for general use rather than the tautness of more aggressive sportbikes, but the CFMOTO allows riders to dial in their preferences front and rear.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK 2024 Suzuki GSX-8S
Yerba Buena Road, which slithers through California’s rugged Santa Monica Mountains, was the perfect place to test these two middleweight streetfighters.

The CFMOTO has a slight edge in terms of braking. With components sourced from J.Juan, a Spanish subsidiary of Brembo, the 800NK has a pair of 4‑piston radial front calipers pinching 320mm discs, a 2‑piston rear caliper pinching a 260mm disc, a radial‑pump front master cylinder, and steel‑braided lines. The 800NK’s brakes provide strong, consistent power with good feedback from the adjustable front lever, but they could use more initial bite.

The Suzuki wears Nissin brakes, with dual 4‑piston radial front calipers squeezing 310mm discs, a 1‑piston rear caliper squeezing a 240mm disc, an axial‑pump front master cylinder, and rubber lines. Stopping power is decent, but the Suzuki’s brakes feel more numb and provide less feedback than the CFMOTO’s. ABS is standard on both bikes.

2024 Suzuki GSX-8S
The Suzuki GSX‑­8S has a minimalist look, and it’s available in Pearl Cosmic Blue (shown), Glass Matte Mechanical Gray, and Metallic Matte Black No. 2.

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The 800NK and GSX‑8S are compact machines with short wheelbases, narrow waistlines, and sporty chassis geometry. Both have steel frames, steel subframes, cast‑aluminum swingarms, and tapered aluminum handlebars. From the cockpit, the Suzuki almost disappears beneath the rider thanks to its svelte tank, 1.7-inch narrower handlebar, and slender (but 0.4 inch taller) seat. The CFMOTO’s tank and bodywork flare out more, and its handlebar is wider, giving it more visual presence from the saddle. Its seat is also wider at the back and has thicker, more comfortable foam.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK 2024 Suzuki GSX-8S
The CFMOTO’s higher power, lighter weight, and wider handlebar give it an advantage over the Suzuki.

As streetfighters, these bikes lend themselves to an aggressive riding style, but they’re comfortable enough for everyday riding or commuting. Their handlebars’ bends and risers allow for an upright seating position, and their footpegs are placed high enough for good cornering clearance but low enough for adequate legroom.

When you exit the highway and find your way to a winding backroad, they are more than happy to display their athleticism. Both roll on 17‑inch cast wheels with 120/70 front and 180/55 rear tire sizes, and their radials – Maxxis Supermaxx ST on the CFMOTO, Dunlop Roadsmart 2 on the Suzuki – provide neutral handling and decent grip. With its additional steering leverage and 35‑lb weight advantage, the CFMOTO is more agile than the Suzuki but not by much.

See all of Rider‘s Suzuki coverage here.

CFMOTO 800NK vs. Suzuki GSX8S: Devil in the Details

In some ways, these are two evenly matched motorcycles, while in others, they diverge. One is built by a well‑established Japanese brand that has been building motorcycles since the early 1950s and selling them in America since 1963. The other is built by an upstart Chinese company that has been building motorcycles only since 2000 but has grown rapidly and not only builds its own engines and motorcycles but also builds them for KTM, Europe’s largest manufacturer.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK 2024 Suzuki GSX-8S
Both bikes have similar profiles, with pointy headlight shrouds and dagger‑­like tailsections. Despite the riders’ go‑­fast crouches above, handlebars positioned well above the triple clamp and sensibly placed footpegs allow for comfortable, upright seating positions.

Although the Suzuki GSX‑8S was introduced in 2023 as a new model with a new engine, it feels very refined. It has the build quality and fit and finish one expects from one of the Big Four Japanese manufacturers, and its engine, electronics, and chassis work together harmoniously. The GSX‑8S costs $500 more than the 800NK, but it has standard features that the CFMOTO lacks, such as traction control and an up/down quickshifter. Its bright TFT instrument panel uses a larger, thicker font and is easier to read in all conditions than the one on the 800NK.

As the new kid on the block looking to build trust in the market, CFMOTO’s value proposition is to provide more bang for the buck. For the 800NK, that starts with the tried‑and‑true KTM 790 engine that delivers an additional 17.5 hp and 3.8 lb‑ft of torque over the GSX‑8S motor. It continues with a 35‑lb lower curb weight, suspension with more adjustability, higher‑spec brakes, and features like cruise control and smartphone connectivity. Not only is the base price lower, but it comes with an additional year of warranty coverage. But it also feels rougher around the edges, particularly regarding its low‑rpm fueling.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK
The 2024 CFMOTO 800NK TFT display changes with ride mode, but the text is too small.
2024 Suzuki GSX-8S
The 2024 Suzuki GSX-8S TFT display is easy to read and adjusts to light/dark conditions.

If you’re an experienced rider who wants a light, powerful, somewhat rowdy streetfighter and can live without traction control and a quickshifter, you’ll want the CFMOTO 800NK. But if you’re someone who prioritizes smoothness and refinement over power, or if you’re a newer rider, the Suzuki GSX‑8S is for you.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK 2024 Suzuki GSX-8S
Each bike has its strengths and weaknesses, but both provide a respectable mix of performance, technology, and style at a reasonable price.

Spec Comparo: 2024 CFMOTO 800NK vs. 2024 Suzuki GSX-8S

  • Base Price: $8,499 (CFMOTO) — $8,999 (Suzuki)
  • Warranty: 2 yrs., unltd. miles — 1 yr., unltd. miles 
  • Website: CFMOTOusa.comSuzukiCycles.com
  • Engine Type: Liquid‑­cooled, transverse parallel‑­Twin, DOHC w/ 4 valves per cyl. — Liquid­-cooled, transverse parallel-­Twin, DOHC w/ 4 valves per cyl.
  • Displacement: 799cc — 776cc 
  • Bore x Stroke: 88 x 65.7mm — 84.0 x 70.0mm
  • Horsepower (rear-­wheel dyno): 93.4 hp @ 9,400 rpm — 75.9 hp @ 8,300 rpm
  • Torque (rear-­wheel dyno): 57.1 lb‑­ft @ 6,600 rpm — 53.3 lb‑­ft @ 6,700 rpm
  • Transmission: 6‑­speed, cable‑­actuated slip/assist wet clutch — 6‑­speed, cable‑­actuated slip/assist wet clutch 
  • Final Drive: Chain — Chain
  • Wheelbase: 57.8 in. — 57.7 in.
  • Rake/Trail: 24 degrees/3.8 in. — 25 degrees/4.1 in. 
  • Seat Height: 31.5 in. — 31.9 in. 
  • Wet Weight: 410 lb — 445 lb
  • Fuel Capacity: 4.0 gal. — 3.7 gal.
  • Fuel Consumption: 42.9 mpg — 48.7 mpg
2024 CFMOTO 800NK 2024 Suzuki GSX-8S

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2024 CFMOTO 800NK, 450NK, and Papio CL/SS Announced

2024 CFMOTO 800NK
2024 CFMOTO 800NK

CFMOTO has announced some changes to its 2024 motorcycle lineup. The CFMOTO 800NK naked sportbike joins CFMOTO’s Ibex 800 S and T adventure bikes in the middleweight class. The 450NK is another new naked sportbike that joins the 450SS, and the Papio minibike lineup now includes two models, the Papio CL and Papio SS.

Models returning for 2024 include the 300NK, 300SS, 700CL-X, and 700CL-X Sport. The 650NK naked bike and 650 ADVentura street-adventure bike have been dropped from the lineup.

Related: 2022 CFMOTO 700CL-X Review | Road Test

2024 CFMOTO 800NK

2024 CFMOTO 800NK

Similar to its adventure bike stablemates, the new CFMOTO 800NK features a liquid-cooled 799cc parallel-Twin with DOHC and 4 valves per cylinder that makes a claimed 100 hp at 9,500 rpm and 60 lb-ft of torque at 8,000 rpm. This is a previous-gen version of the KTM 790 engine that CFMOTO builds under a partnership agreement. The 800NK has a 6-speed gearbox, throttle-by-wire, and a slip/assist clutch. The 800NK adds a Street ride mode in addition to the Sport and Rain modes found on the Ibex 800 models. All three models have cruise control, but the Ibex 800 T is the only model that features a quickshifter.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK

Related: 2023 CFMOTO Ibex 800 T Review | Road Test

The 800NK has fully adjustable KYB suspension, with an inverted fork and single shock, and for stopping power, all 800 models have J.Juan components, with radial-mount 4-piston calipers biting dual 320mm discs up front and a 2-piston floating caliper pinching a single 260mm disc in the rear. ABS is standard.

The naked sportbike rides on 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels with a 57.8-inch wheelbase. Seat height is 31.5 inches, and with a 4-gal. fuel tank, the bike comes in with a curb weight of 417 lb.

2024 CFMOTO 800NK

The 800NK has full LED lighting and a 5-inch TFT display with Bluetooth compatibility and device pairing via the CFMOTO Ride App.

The 2024 CFMOTO 800NK will come in Nebula Black or Zircon White starting at $8,499.

2024 CFMOTO 450NK

2024 CFMOTO 450NK

When we tested the 2023 CFMOTO 450SS in the Appalachian Mountains of Tennessee and North Carolina, our reviewer said the bike “proved a trustworthy steed that allowed me to work on my cornering skills with a confidence-inspiring ride.” For 2024, CFMOTO has released the naked sportbike version of the platform, which features the same liquid-cooled 449cc parallel-Twin with DOHC and 4 valves per cylinder and a 270 crank, all working together for a claimed 50 hp at 9,500 rpm and 28.8 lb-ft of torque at 7,600 rpm and mated to a 6-speed gearbox and slip/assist clutch. 

Related: 2023 CFMOTO 450SS Review | First Ride

Both the 450NK and 450SS also share the same suspension, with an inverted fork and multi-link rear suspension, but for stopping power, the 450NK uses J.Juan components while the 450SS uses Brembo M40 front calipers. However, other braking specs are the same, with a 4-piston front caliper biting a 320mm disc and a single-piston floating caliper and 270mm disc in the rear. ABS is standard on both bikes.

2024 CFMOTO 450NK

Both bikes ride on 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels. CFMOTO hasn’t specified the tires on the 2024 450SS – the 2023 model was shod with CST Adreno HS AS5 tires – but the 450NK has Maxxis Supermaxx ST tires.

The 450NK comes in with a slightly longer wheelbase than the SS (53.9 inches vs. 53.5), a slightly higher seat height (31.3 inches vs. 31.0), and at a trim 364 lb, it’s 6 pounds lighter than the SS.

Both bikes have full LED lighting and a 5-inch TFT display with Bluetooth compatibility and device pairing via the CFMOTO Ride App.

Both 2024 CFMOTO 450 models come in Nebula White, but the second option for the 450NK is Zephyr Blue, as opposed to Zircon Black for the 450SS. The 450NK starts at $5,399, and the 450SS starts at $5,699.

2024 Papio CL and SS

The CFMOTO Papio takes its name from the genus that includes baboons, and when our reviewer tested out a 2022 Papio at a CFMOTO launch in Minneapolis, he said the ride indeed was like a barrel of monkeys.

Related: 2022 CFMOTO Motorcycle Lineup Review | First Ride

For 2024, CFMOTO now offers two Papio models that will appeal to different buyers. CFMOTO says the Papio CL has “scrambler roots” and is more geared toward playing the dirt, while the Papio SS has a retro racing look.  

2024 CFMOTO Papio CL
2024 CFMOTO Papio CL

Both bikes feature an air-cooled fuel-injected 126cc Single making 9.4 hp, but the peak comes a little sooner than the 2023 model (8,250 rpm vs. 8,500), and the torque is slightly higher at 6.8 lb-ft compared to 6.5 lb-ft on the 2023 model. The engine is mated to a 6-speed gearbox, which is a unique feature in this segment.

2024 CFMOTO Papio SS
2024 CFMOTO Papio SS

Suspension is still provided by an inverted telescopic fork (with lower covers on the CL for extra protection) and a central monoshock, and braking still comes from a 2-piston caliper and 210mm disc up front with a single-piston caliper and 190mm disc in the back. ABS is standard on both models.

2024 CFMOTO Papio SS
2024 CFMOTO Papio SS

Both bikes roll on 12-inch three-spoke aluminum alloy wheels, with the CL tires sporting a more chunky tread pattern than the SS. The CL also has a higher handlebar and lower footpegs to suit its purpose, while the SS has clip-on handlebars, a quarter fairing, and a lower belly pan. The sharper beak on the previous Papio has been softened for 2024 and now features dual round LED headlights.

2024 CFMOTO Papio CL
2024 CFMOTO Papio CL

Seat height has dropped a half-inch from the previous Papio, down to 30 inches on both 2024 models, and while the fuel tank capacity is one-tenth of a gallon less at 1.8 gal, the curb weight still comes in at 251 lb. The 2024 Papio CL comes in Nebula Black or Galaxy Grey starting at $3,299, and the Papio SS comes in Magma Red, Nebula White, or Moss Green, also at $3,299.

For more information, visit the CFMOTO website.

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